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Hi, I'm Martin Paul, the Global SAP Alliance
and Competence Leader.

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And today, for my leadership series,
I'm here with Marc Bourdé.

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Welcome, Marc. Welcome.

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And let's come to the first question
and let's talk about SAP and so, what

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excites you most about our relationship
with SAP?

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Well, I believe, you know, first thing,
it's a deep, trusted relationship.

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A 360 relationship. That means we buy
products from SAP,

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like S/4HANA Cloud Public Edition
and implement it in the large territories

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like Germany or the US.
So, we are the guinea pig.

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We are client zero on that one.
So that's one aspect.

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The second aspect is we deliver critical
projects at SAP, like SAP Business Data Cloud,

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where we work with our friends from SAP
to implement it at SAP.

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And again, that's another client zero.

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And then we take all that together
to the market.

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That means that when we are talking to
customers, we are not talking about
something that we don't know.

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We're talking about something that both
of us have experience in,
that we've done together.

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Give us something private, you know,
from yourself.

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So, what's your main passion outside work?

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So, SAP. No. I'm joking.

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Probably world affairs. I like what's
happening with society, with AI,
with all these things.

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So, I think that's something that keeps me busy.
But also, I like to play some sports,
to watch some sports.

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So, I'm doing a little bit of sailing,
a bit of skiing, watch football.

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So being outdoors, is quite nice.

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We have just released, a set of Express
solutions in the market.

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Now tell us what value is that bringing
to our clients and how are they
distinguishing us from our competitors?

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So, I think that's a great question,
Martin,

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because Cloud ERP Express,
or Back Office Express,

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we have a few solutions, as you mentioned,
are here to deliver a business value at speed.

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So, it's not only a package to do a
technical implementation.

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This is something to implement rapidly,
new features,

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and to help our customers to get more
with a bit of tax, with a bit of accounting,

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so making sure that they get the right value,

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with PwC add-ons and accelerators,
and not only a technical project
that doesn't deliver benefits.

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We have a lot of clients who are now,
following more a brownfield approach.

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So, a fast transition,
from ECC to SAP S/4HANA.

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What is the approach to brownfield
and how do we unleash more value
for our customers?

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You know, Martin, that very often we get
customers who call us in the middle of a
brownfield,

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and then the CFO calls us and says,
“I don't see any value.

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I keep giving more money for the project.
The project is costing more money
and taking more time,

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and there is no business value at all.”

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So that's why we as PwC, we look at what
we called small greenfield or bluefield,
as some of our partners call it,

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to effectively embed some value into the
transformation.

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So instead of doing a very standard
brownfield, we do a brownfield plus
or enhanced brownfield,

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we will do some changes, some transformation
to leverage the new features,

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but also some simplifications that are
required by the business.

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The result of that is a bit more time
but much more value.

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So, a lift and shift becomes more a shift
and uplift. That's the term Martin.

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Marc, what are the trends you are seeing
in the EMEA region?

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Well, Martin, as you know, it is so diverse...
Kenya, Middle East, Finland, UK, Spain,
very different countries.

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Anyway.

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Three things I see. Number one.
Simplification.

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Okay. Every single customer is facing
complexity. Facing disruption.
Technology. Geopolitical challenges.

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So, they are looking for simplification -
running more simple businesses.

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They're also looking at standardisation.

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Why standardisation? Because they recognise
that if all their businesses, all their
entities are different, it's creating more
complexity internally, and in terms of
responding to the new challenges and
technology.

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Then the third one is innovation.
And this is really on the top of the agenda
of every single CEO

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with all the changes happening with tech,
all the changes happening in the world.

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Innovation is the way to stay on top of
their game, to stay on top of their industry,

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and innovation requires simplification
and standardisation.

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So, standardisation, simplification,
innovation.

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What are your big bets for the year ahead?

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I have to say AI. Okay. Because if I don't
say AI people WILL say, hey, where did he
live for the last few years?

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I think AI is one, but AI is coming in
three different flavours.

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As you know, the first one is what I call
embedded AI.

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So, this is SAP effectively enhancing their
product with AI capabilities that will help
clients to do more with specific transactions.
Okay, so that's the first one.

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The second one is AI solutions.
You know our global CoE for AI,
has developed fantastic solutions
like the CSRD AI.

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We have solutions, and this is to supplement,
so effectively we push that out
for the benefit of our clients.

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Then the last one is we use AI to improve
the quality of our delivery.

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Making sure that we deliver the best outcome
in a better way, and in a smarter way
for clients. And that's AI for delivery.

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Marc, thank you so much for your time.
It's my pleasure.

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See you soon.